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1 Mad Prophet Ludwig  Wed, Nov 10, 2010 1:15:24pm

I feel about to vomit. It really takes someone Jewish to be that creatively horrible and utterly disrespectful to the Jewish people.

I will never understand people like him of Chomsky who so utterly betray us, who lie so terribly about us, and so obviously hate us and themselves.

2 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 10, 2010 1:26:24pm

Neturei Karta also wear "Palestinian prayer shawls" but everybody already knows that Neturei Karta are a bunch of nuts and nobody takes them seriously.

It's these guys who say "Look at me! I am such a freaking European intellectual with impeccable Jewish pedigree so I can't possibly be an anti-Semite."

Yes, they can possibly be anti-Semites. They can't even be called "self hating" Jews because they love themselves, it's just all those other Jewy Jewy Jews they can't stand.

These are the Jews who, in the 1930's, listened to Hitler's rants and smiled to themselves and said "Oh he's not talking about us, he means those kikes in Poland."

3 Bob Levin  Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:03:24pm

I hear what you all are saying, and I want to add to this by focusing on what the remedy would look like.

There is a reason that there is a category of Jew, the Baal Teshuva. This person begins from a point as alienated from the epicenter of Judaism as possible. The person in this picture would be such a person. What would be this person's first steps towards return? Not ideally, not logically, but in real life, what might happen?

What frequently happens is that they don a tallis, or tzitzit, and tefillin--but do it incorrectly. We've all been there. Someone has to take us aside and tell us the right way. This might take a day, it might take ten years. Another frequent occurrence is that transformations come very slowly--so we shouldn't expect this gentleman to have a falling off of his horse epiphany. Rather, ironically, paradoxically, he could show up in protest, daily, wearing his tzitzit (and the techelet might be kosher), and one day he might adjust his tefillin, and still pray at that spot.

But you know, he's closer to the Western Wall than I am.

This is exactly what a Baal Teshuva would look like, in the earliest stages. He's got it wrong, but he's also very close to getting it right.

4 Vicious Babushka  Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:11:43pm

re: #3 Bob Levin

I hear what you all are saying, and I want to add to this by focusing on what the remedy would look like.

There is a reason that there is a category of Jew, the Baal Teshuva. This person begins from a point as alienated from the epicenter of Judaism as possible. The person in this picture would be such a person. What would be this person's first steps towards return? Not ideally, not logically, but in real life, what might happen?

What frequently happens is that they don a tallis, or tzitzit, and tefillin--but do it incorrectly. We've all been there. Someone has to take us aside and tell us the right way. This might take a day, it might take ten years. Another frequent occurrence is that transformations come very slowly--so we shouldn't expect this gentleman to have a falling off of his horse epiphany. Rather, ironically, paradoxically, he could show up in protest, daily, wearing his tzitzit (and the techelet might be kosher), and one day he might adjust his tefillin, and still pray at that spot.

But you know, he's closer to the Western Wall than I am.

This is exactly what a Baal Teshuva would look like, in the earliest stages. He's got it wrong, but he's also very close to getting it right.

Well, Ludwig and I are both BT's so we have been there and done that. The guy in the picture is clearly using Jewish symbols that have deliberately been modified in order to make an anti-Zionist photo op. That said, if this guy is on the road to becoming a BT he is probably going to be attracted to Satmar.

5 Bob Levin  Wed, Nov 10, 2010 2:28:19pm

;-)


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